Can Spirits no know how to reach us?
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KatyKing
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Can Spirits no know how to reach us?
I'm currently reading Arthur Findlay's excellent book, Where Two Worlds Meet.
On Pages 247-8, while at a seance, one sitter asks the spirit (referring to seances and mediumship), "Are there many on your side, Mr. Potter, who do not know of this?"
And receives in reply: "Mr. Cameron, there are myriads here who do not know about this means of communication at all."
Have any of you heard of this before?
Could this be one of the reasons we have trouble making contact with the spirits we want to?
Jim
On Pages 247-8, while at a seance, one sitter asks the spirit (referring to seances and mediumship), "Are there many on your side, Mr. Potter, who do not know of this?"
And receives in reply: "Mr. Cameron, there are myriads here who do not know about this means of communication at all."
Have any of you heard of this before?
Could this be one of the reasons we have trouble making contact with the spirits we want to?
Jim
Left Behind
Re: Can Spirits no know how to reach us?
There's a bit in ACD where someone comes across talking about those who pass but maintain their earthly blinkered attitudes. He cites a Plymouith Brother in Spirit who refuses to acknowledge that he's actually where he is.
KatyKing
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Left Behind wrote:I'm currently reading Arthur Findlay's excellent book, Where Two Worlds Meet.
On Pages 247-8, while at a seance, one sitter asks the spirit (referring to seances and mediumship), "Are there many on your side, Mr. Potter, who do not know of this?"
And receives in reply: "Mr. Cameron, there are myriads here who do not know about this means of communication at all."
Have any of you heard of this before?
Could this be one of the reasons we have trouble making contact with the spirits we want to?
Jim
I've always thought that transdimensional communication is not likely to be known about much more in the etheric than it is here in the physical. Logically there isn't likely to be any significant degree of homogeneity in terms of spiritual progress and understanding so why would one expect homogeneity in awareness of communication through mediumship et al?
And if one is persuaded by the notion of multiple lives, it's even more understandable why folk will be at many different levels of understanding according to their personal spiritual development - rather like the situation we see in the physical.
Maybe those who do know about this 'stuff' 'over-there' are viewed in a similar way to those who know about it 'over here'? It wouldn't surprise me for an instant
mac
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Like attracts like so maybe we just get what and who we are looking for in the main.
When you think how many millions of folk there must be in spirit factored against the few Spiritualists on this side that there are or have ever been since we began then communication via mediums is minuscule.
I really like that idea of Spiritualist-communicating spirits being looked on by other spirits in the same way folk on this side view 'us'.
"What are you wasting your time on that nonsense for?"...... they could be asked.
Sound familiar?
When you think how many millions of folk there must be in spirit factored against the few Spiritualists on this side that there are or have ever been since we began then communication via mediums is minuscule.
I really like that idea of Spiritualist-communicating spirits being looked on by other spirits in the same way folk on this side view 'us'.
"What are you wasting your time on that nonsense for?"...... they could be asked.
Sound familiar?
KatyKing
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KatyKing wrote:There's a bit in ACD where someone comes across talking about those who pass but maintain their earthly blinkered attitudes. He cites a Plymouith Brother in Spirit who refuses to acknowledge that he's actually where he is.
Interesting does he say where that info came from, If you look at the Tom Harrison video Visitors From the Other Side we get the same story. When I hear it repeated sometimes it gives me confidence but I just wonder whether we have an urban Spiritulist myth.
I think this whole area is very complex and one answer will not fit all. Certainly when those who pooh poohed the idea come to communicate they are retiscent.
I notice that in many cases other relatives provide an energy bridge to facilitate the communication. I have also heard that Spirits who have developed the skill of communication help others discover it. It seems it does not come naturally to everyone. Ther are also multiple reasons why Spirit may not communicate or are retiscent to do so. Those where the relationships were badly damaged, the abuser of his daughter was a very tough link to deal with thank God it was not a public demo.
Jim
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SB speaks of a more complex set of circumstances ie. we are not simply as Mediumistic evidence might suggest. He mentions the Individual/ Personality 'overlap' (for want of a better term) and the Personality being purely a material construct that ends with physical death. Spirit have this enviable ability to flexibly appear as suits the occasion.
It really boils down to the only sure way of raising our vibrations is to build our characters, while we have the opportunity, in this Earthly chapter of eternal Life.
Arthur Findlay arrived at similar conclusions when working with John Sloan, producing many literary works in support of his understanding.
Knowlege of survival is a great platform to launch the individual's investigation from, but knowledge on its own does not provide the substance and growth that practical application of the lessons bring to us.
It really boils down to the only sure way of raising our vibrations is to build our characters, while we have the opportunity, in this Earthly chapter of eternal Life.
Arthur Findlay arrived at similar conclusions when working with John Sloan, producing many literary works in support of his understanding.
Knowlege of survival is a great platform to launch the individual's investigation from, but knowledge on its own does not provide the substance and growth that practical application of the lessons bring to us.
hiorta
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hiorta wrote:SB speaks of a more complex set of circumstances ie. we are not simply as Mediumistic evidence might suggest. He mentions the Individual/ Personality 'overlap' (for want of a better term) and the Personality being purely a material construct that ends with physical death. Spirit have this enviable ability to flexibly appear as suits the occasion.
It really boils down to the only sure way of raising our vibrations is to build our characters, while we have the opportunity, in this Earthly chapter of eternal Life.
Arthur Findlay arrived at similar conclusions when working with John Sloan, producing many literary works in support of his understanding.
Knowlege of survival is a great platform to launch the individual's investigation from, but knowledge on its own does not provide the substance and growth that practical application of the lessons bring to us.
Well said, hiorta.
zerdini
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Crikey George we agree! Top class comment h. Spiritualism without practical application
is merely a sideshow. What are we 'doing' with that which we know?
A popular text on Lyceum walls was ever.....
Hearts to Spirit. Hands to work.
is merely a sideshow. What are we 'doing' with that which we know?
A popular text on Lyceum walls was ever.....
Hearts to Spirit. Hands to work.
KatyKing
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KatyKing wrote:Crikey George we agree! Top class comment h. Spiritualism without practical application
is merely a sideshow. What are we 'doing' with that which we know?
A popular text on Lyceum walls was ever.....
Hearts to Spirit. Hands to work.
I agreed with hiorta as I haven't read anything similar from you.
In any case shouldn't you be at work instead of commenting on everything on the forum? You seem to be obsessed with the need to comment on everything.
zerdini
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Thank you for your concern George.
Thankfully twelve hour days are few and far between in teaching. I shall however share your kindness with this evening's Year 2s. They would have one available 'on tap' 24\7 were they allowed to.
Thankfully twelve hour days are few and far between in teaching. I shall however share your kindness with this evening's Year 2s. They would have one available 'on tap' 24\7 were they allowed to.
KatyKing
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mac wrote:
[color=black]I've always thought that transdimensional communication is not likely to be known about much more in the etheric than it is here in the physical. Logically there isn't likely to be any significant degree of homogeneity in terms of spiritual progress and understanding so why would one expect homogeneity in awareness of communication through mediumship et al?
I have to admit that I never thought of it that way, Mac: but it certainly does make good sense. We often assume that those in the next plane know everything or at least, know much more than we do: and that may very well not necessarily be so.
Jim
Left Behind
Re: Can Spirits no know how to reach us?
zerdini wrote:KatyKing wrote:Crikey George we agree! Top class comment h. Spiritualism without practical application
is merely a sideshow. What are we 'doing' with that which we know?
A popular text on Lyceum walls was ever.....
Hearts to Spirit. Hands to work.
I agreed with hiorta as I haven't read anything similar from you.
In any case shouldn't you be at work instead of commenting on everything on the forum? You seem to be obsessed with the need to comment on everything.
Why criticize Peter for being our most active poster? I enjoy his comments, and he gets so many discussions started, or keeps them going.
Jim
Left Behind
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Left Behind wrote:mac wrote:
[color=black]I've always thought that transdimensional communication is not likely to be known about much more in the etheric than it is here in the physical. Logically there isn't likely to be any significant degree of homogeneity in terms of spiritual progress and understanding so why would one expect homogeneity in awareness of communication through mediumship et al?
I have to admit that I never thought of it that way, Mac: but it certainly does make good sense. We often assume that those in the next plane know everything or at least, know much more than we do: and that may very well not necessarily be so.
Jim
It's an assumption made by many, Jim. I did it myself for a short time.
mac
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hiorta wrote:
It really boils down to the only sure way of raising our vibrations is to build our characters, while we have the opportunity, in this Earthly chapter of eternal Life.
Knowlege of survival is a great platform to launch the individual's investigation from, but knowledge on its own does not provide the substance and growth that practical application of the lessons bring to us.
I think that no real Spiritualist, Christian, member of any other faith, or well-menaing member of none, could dispute those ideas, Hiorta. Excellent points!
Jim
Left Behind
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I don' think George was criticising as much as being caring Im. His wry humour only peeks through posts. But peek it does. I'll not be as prolific posting now work restarted but will keep my hand in when time available. Hopefully it will stop raining long enough t get cabbage plants in soon. One dry day we've had since Good Friday!
KatyKing
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Ah Adelaide in Autumn beautiful one day perfect the next 30C yesterday cool nights and mornings no rain for 3 weeks but we will get a freshen up at the weekend with a cool change down to 20c, thats just a bit cold by Autumn standards
Back on topic, I love the circles where everyone has to sit in the same seats so that there guides will no where they are. If that was really the case how would loved one's in Spirit have the slightest idea where there family were.
Back on topic, I love the circles where everyone has to sit in the same seats so that there guides will no where they are. If that was really the case how would loved one's in Spirit have the slightest idea where there family were.
Admin- Admin
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LOL
So if you swapped seats would you get the other person's guide and they get yours?
So if you swapped seats would you get the other person's guide and they get yours?
KatyKing
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The mind boggles! How come in spiritualist church,the medium knows exactly where to come when giving a message. I.e.. 'I have a message for the lady sitting over there,wearing a blue sweater and purple slacks'
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petal34
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petal34 wrote:The mind boggles! How come in spiritualist church,the medium knows exactly where to come when giving a message. I.e.. 'I have a message for the lady sitting over there,wearing a blue sweater and purple slacks'
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Frivolous questions deserve a frivolous answer but I don't intend wasting my time.
zerdini
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zerdini wrote:petal34 wrote:The mind boggles! How come in spiritualist church,the medium knows exactly where to come when giving a message. I.e.. 'I have a message for the lady sitting over there,wearing a blue sweater and purple slacks'
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Frivolous questions deserve a frivolous answer but I don't intend wasting my time.
If you posted the answer, then it would answer Petal's question, which wouldn't be a frivolous effort.
Jim
Left Behind
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She is just being silly as she knows the answer as she has stated often enough.Left Behind wrote:zerdini wrote:petal34 wrote:The mind boggles! How come in spiritualist church,the medium knows exactly where to come when giving a message. I.e.. 'I have a message for the lady sitting over there,wearing a blue sweater and purple slacks'
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Frivolous questions deserve a frivolous answer but I don't intend wasting my time.
If you posted the answer, then it would answer Petal's question, which wouldn't be a frivolous effort.
Jim
Posting for the sake of posting is a waste of time and energy.
zerdini
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KatyKing wrote:Fun though.
[still raining]
I wonder if Admin thinks it's fun.
zerdini
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zerdini wrote:petal34 wrote:The mind boggles! How come in spiritualist church,the medium knows exactly where to come when giving a message. I.e.. 'I have a message for the lady sitting over there,wearing a blue sweater and purple slacks'
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Frivolous questions deserve a frivolous answer but I don't intend wasting my time.
Who asked you too?
petal34
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petal34 wrote:zerdini wrote:petal34 wrote:The mind boggles! How come in spiritualist church,the medium knows exactly where to come when giving a message. I.e.. 'I have a message for the lady sitting over there,wearing a blue sweater and purple slacks'
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Frivolous questions deserve a frivolous answer but I don't intend wasting my time.
Who asked you too?
Why waste time and energy posting anything on this forum when you already know the answer?
Your rudeness is not appreciated.
zerdini
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