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MrFree wrote:See for example the mediumship of Rudi Schneider, which is our tradition!
We have another cosmology like the regular spirutalist.
Survival is a topic but also many others!

When considering the validity of a physical medium, survival evidences are the only topic. The rest is theater. Of course, this is the argument put forward by every non-evidential physical medium I have run across.

The Seances are extremely rich in phenomenolgy down to communication and evidence, not always striking, but more and more often!

You may well be evidential and I have read testimony from a few who agree (assuming this is Muegge). Good for them.

Braude will clear you of fraud. Braude however will not assure that you are evidential to the cause of survival proofs. Ultimately, you will need to have much more public sittings, many more public testimonies and, in this day and time, perhaps examination using new technologies. A few on this forum will require that you materialize spirit in full light. I'm not one of those but considering it has been accomplished many times before, I can understand their point of view.

Until then, you may claim whatever you wish and you may do as you wish. Don't be continually surprised, though, when there exists such an incredible number { docuemneted and historied} of fully developed evidential materializing mediums; these mediums who had been exhaustingly investigated. People who are familiar with these mediums, including having sat with them, and those who understand physical mediumship, continue to be less than impressed.

I wish you the best of luck most sincerely and if there ever was anyone -recently- who stood strongly and publicly for proper and evidential physical mediumship than MU!! I do not know who that might be.

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No, dear Mu! Robin Foy I only know personally for 5 years or so! I sit for development since I am 15! For 20 years! So its not Foyism!

The tradition I am talking about is the German Spiritism!
And the German Spiritsm has other guidelines, is more phenomenologically oriented, more pragmatic, is not searching in every mediumship attempt for Survival evidence, has other modi operandi, asf!
Survivalism plays an important role, but there s simply no institutionalized religion behind the purpose of mediumistical production!

Moreover myself, and the ego is always a kind of mirror of the spirit team, is raised far off any spiritualistic background.
The shamanistical is one of my main bases - and the cosmology attached!
the cosmological human being of the third millenium, entangled in a rich creational and multidimensional universe!

Thats why we re different to the english mediums.

Alone the fact, that the medium in our case is permanently hold during the phenomena is a result of the German experiences with Physical Mediumship.

So maybe some will be surprised here, but there is Physical Mediumship OUTSIDE of english spiritualism.
And the Germans were once one of the leading countries in the scientific investigation of physical mediumship! And materialization mediumship! For example we do differ between Full and Partial Materialisation - both controlled by spirit teams...! this differentiation is not very common in english physical mediumship. Either you are producing Full Forms or you are more or less worthless in the eyes of many.
I mean we accept that.

But nevertheless, in regards to Survival evidence the FEG has achieved some interesting results! I linked the article above that lists some of our more striking Survival Evidence Cases.

I only always ask myself, why do people not use our different approach to learn more about the phenomenology, the personality of guides, the modus operandi of the trance and the exciting phenomena, that bend and stretch our physics quite a bit!

The people that say, its too early for the FEG Spirit Team to demonstrate in public, do they only go to seances where Full Materialisations in Red Light are wandering around?
What? There are none of such kind?
That must be the reason why so many judge from in front of their screens - about things they have never seen (incl. the value of FEG sessions)!

How many people here are talking about the FEG and neither do know me nor have ever sat with the FEG?
But that s okay, I also would talk about something like the FEG's productions, but I myself would be very careful with my public judgements, as long as I talk about things I haven t experienced yet!

I hope i could express myself in my mish-mash broken english (yes I am mortally offended) )

We send Love Vibes from Germany

MU!! wrote:

Jane Lyzell wrote:No Christ was chosen how to shosent to se him - not publick- there vere invited to see his demonstarion - the crucifixion wasent his that was they ho dident understand hees cal.....

Jane, I don't know which of the 2,500+ versions of the New Testament you are reading but none I have would support your claims.

it thepend on how you see things

MU!! wrote:

When considering the validity of a physical medium, survival evidences are the only topic. The rest is theater.

But dear Mu!, when an organism extrudes masses of an unknown substance that moves and breaths and builds forms of human character, hands, feet, ears, heads - or when from a slight mist at the ceiling suddenly a glowing object falls from and flys erratically through the room, meanwhile the spirit control explains the patterns behind - how can you say this is theater!?

These are the most rarest mediumsitical phenomena!
You need to remind please, that Spiritualism is in Europe a english specialty.

So there is mediumship besides the search for Survival! Maybe not for the english Survivalist, but for the German Spiritist in every case!

Imagine, in Germany is no institutionalized or public interest in that survival question, and thats the way people are raised here!
Only those who are interested in Parapsychology or are looking for the mysteries of Altered Consciousness States, MEdiumship, Trance Rituals, History of esoteric waves in Europe, Near Death Phenomena asf. come in contact here with these questions!

Can you see the differnece with German Mediums!?
Nevertheless I naturally consider our work at least enriching the mediumistical scene and hope those who sat with us are of the same opinion!

Peace

Mrfree
Hawe seen youre blogg ant the photos on it - what is the purpus for you to put them oute like that ?

//Jane